Husqvarna vs Ambrogio - A user's perspective.

Ambrogio 4.0 on grass

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Before going any further, please remember that we are an Ambrogio dealer.  I have tried to ensure that everything I have included is objective but, if you think I have missed anything or misrepresented anything, please let me know and I’ll strive to correct it.

Background

If you have not read my previous posting about my starting point with robot mowers then it is probably worth a quick read here, if you want a very quick summary then …

We bought a Husqvarna 450X in 2018 and were so impressed that we decided to give up our jobs and start selling robot mowers.  We looked at the brands available as a dealer and quickly decided that Ambrogio was the up-and-coming brand in the uk.  I emphasise ‘in the uk’ as 2022 will be the 22nd anniversary of Ambrogio as a robot mower brand, Husqvarna beat Ambrogio to it by about 5 years but remember that most of the innovations are fairly recent.

We do get a fair number of calls from people who have looked for a premium robot lawn mower, found Husqvarna (they have a big advertising budget) and then, after a bit more googling, found Ambrogio and are wondering what the differences are.  Fortunately, there is some good information out there but in case you haven’t found  it…

Key Differences

Based on my experience of both brands, I would say that the differences lie in 4 main areas:

  1. Range of models (especially for larger areas).
  2. Build quality.
  3. Flexibility to deal with complex areas.
  4. Total cutting time.

There are some differences in the features e.g. Husqvarna has a obstacle sensor, Ambrogio has a pet tag (Amico) and remembers where it has previously bumped into an obstacle, but both brands are continuously improving and refining their features and software.  Although the features may differ, they are both solving problems just sometimes in different ways.

Range of models

Ambrogio currently has a slightly wider range of domestic models than Husqvarna (11 vs 7 – depending on how you count them).  On the face of it, that sounds better, but does it really matter?  

If you have a medium sized garden (less than 1800 sq. m.) and still want the latest technology or a large garden (3500 sq. m. or over) then the answer is definitely yes!

The latest (2022) Ambrogio range provides the latest technology across it’s models (apart from the L60 – which is innovative in it’s own right). It has 4 models that cater for 3500 sq. m. and above (up to 20,000 sq. m.) whilst Husqvarna has 2 models with a maximum of 5000 sq. m. 

Model Comparisons in depth

When you are buying a machine that mows in your garden for 6+ months of the year in all weathers, you want something that will last. Both Husqvarna and Ambrogio are quality brands and are much higher quality than other machines that I have looked at (that’s why I bought them) but by looking at a picture or even seeing them in the flesh, it is difficult to see how well built they are.  I would suggest looking at some of the videos comparing the models (below) and asking for a demo of the machine before buying.  Many thanks to our colleagues at Ambrogio Uk (Mower Magic) for putting the videos together.

Remember to not just look at the area they will cover but also the number of hours they need to be scheduled for  to cover that area.

For more details on the Husqvarnas, have a look in their manuals rather than their website.  More details of the Ambrogio models along with their manuals can be found via our Ambrogio product summary.

Husqvarna Automower 450X vs Ambrogio L250i Elite S+

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Have a look at the Ambrogio L250i Elite S+ and its smaller brother the Ambrogio L250i Elite

Husqvarna Automower 430X vs Ambrogio 4.0 Elite

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Have a look at the Ambrogio 4.0 Elite Premium and its bigger brother the Ambrogio 4.36 Elite

Husqvarna Automower 310 & 315 vs Ambrogio Twenty

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Have a look at the Ambrogio Twenty Deluxe, the Twenty Elite the newest Twenty Elite S+

Ambrogio QUAD First Look - an Husqvarna 435X alternative

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Have a look at the Ambrogio Quad

Flexibility to deal with complex areas

From the installation point of view, a Husqvarna perimeter wire installation is very similar to a Ambrogio installation, the main point where they differ is how the mower navigates to different areas in your lawn and find their way back to the base station. 

The Husqvarna uses separate guide wires that it follows to find each area whereas the Ambrogio uses the perimeter wire.

If you have a complex garden with a number of linked areas then the Husqvarna can handle it up to 3 additional areas on the biggest machine – then you have to get more creative…the Ambrogio Twenty 25 Elite upwards can handle 7 additional areas.  Why would you need 7 additional areas?  Although you might consider an ‘area’ as a lawn separated from your main lawn (perhaps though a gate, path etc.), the reality is that we setup areas to handle parts of the lawn where the robot may not get to very often in it’s usual operation e.g. round the back of a flowerbed, tennis court, swimming pool. 

The other thing is that over time, your requirements change, perhaps you add a flowerbed, seed an area that you didn’t previously mow…what you want is a mower that provides the flexibility for the future.

In the 2020 season, we decide to move the base station.  It was a short distance (about 5m).  With the Ambrogio, it was easy, we just needed to extend one end of the perimeter wire, change 1 distance to an Area via the App and we were ready to go…well not quite as we had to solve the problem of a mower going over shingle as well.

If we had guide wires to move instead, we would have probably not moved it – too much hassle.

New base station position

Total Cutting Time

All robot mower manufacturers quote the maximum area that a specific model can cover.  What is more difficult to find out is how long it takes to cut that area.  As a mower will cut and charge a number of times a day, the important thing is not how much it will cut in one charge but how many hours a day is required to ensure that the whole area is covered each week.

For example the Husqvarna 450X has a maximum capacity of 5000 m² but, it will require the machine to run for almost 24 hours every day…not a problem unless the mower doesn’t mow for a day (or even for a few hours) or if you want to use the lawn.

Wire Breaks

Although not specifically related to the machine, the Ambrogio standard perimeter wire has proved to be more resilient than that offered by Husqvarna.  We had multiple breaks with the Husqvarna wire but so far have only had one break with the Ambrogio wire when some idiot (me) put a spade through it.  You can purchase an armoured wire for installation (it has an extra layer of insulation and a extra wire shield) which comes with a ten year guarantee – worth thinking about if you have lots of wildlife that may damage the cable.

Next Steps

If you’re interested in finding out more about the Ambrogio range then Contact Us.

If you’re not sure about how a robot lawn mower would work in your garden, then ask us to carry out a lawn survey – you can get an idea of the size of your lawn by using our measure my lawn page.

Whether you decide to buy a Husqvarna or an Ambrogio, we hope that you enjoy the free time that it will bring you.

Paul

17 Responses

  1. Hi, I really enjoyed your blog and found it very helpful. If i could ask you a few questions please. I’m based in Co Cork, Ireland. I’ve been thinking about getting a robot lawnmower now with a couple of years, and i’m finally ready to purchase. Having initially looked at the Husqvarna 430x, my head has been turned by the Ambrogio range. I have approx. 1,800 sq. meters (2 separate lawns with driveway in between). Main lawn is about 1400 sq. meters & smaller one is 400 sq. meters. All on a slope, with some rough areas. I liked the review on the 4.0 elite and had a local dealer call out to survey my site recently. He said it would suit but i would have to cut into walls by driveway with about a 2 foot drop from lawn to tarmac, cut 2 lines in Tarmac for cable to cross to smaller lawn and cover with silicone. Not sure about that. I phoned another dealer on Saturday. He said he has’nt sold any 4.0 elite as they are not suited to Irish grass… He recommended the L250i elite or a Stihl 632 C as he is a dealer for both. He also said it would probably be better just to lift the robot over to the smaller lawn every couple of days. That kind of defeats the purpose of having a robot in my eyes. I have a long passage at the rear of the site that could connect to both lawns. It’s an earth bank with a drain behind it, but i could get a digger in to flatten out that area, set grass and lay the cables that way. would be extra cost though. Any advice on which model to go for and which option to get to smaller lawn would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Keith.

    1. Hi Keith,

      Sorry for the delay in getting back to you.
      For the mower to make it’s way between 2 areas it needs a passageway at least 1m wide and the surface needs to be something that the mower can grip on i.e. grass, tarmac…shingle is not good.
      If you have rough areas then I would go for a 4.0 rather than a L250 as it has much more grip and with it’s pivoting head, it copes with bumps, holes etc. better.
      Normally if we go across tarmac, we cut 2 grooves with an angle grinder, place the wire in it and cover in silicone to keep the wire in place – just bear in mind that the wire is 3.4mm thick so you need a big blade on the angle grinder.
      You don’t say how long the passageway is at the rear of the site but so long as it is wide enough and not too long (i.e. less than 150m) then the 4.0 has enough spare capacity to travel between the areas, you should place the base in the larger area and set the schedule so that it goes to the smaller area twice a week and spends the whole mowing session there (3h 45m) – that will minimise the amount of time the mower spends travelling and not cutting.
      If you have any further questions, just drop us an email: info@therobotmower.co.uk

      1. Hi, thank you for the reply. I have decided to go for the option of the bank at the rear of the house to connect both lawns. I met a contractor last week and he is coming on Thursday to flatten/widen the bank. It’s just shy of 50 meters and I am getting him to make it 1.5 meter wide. I will set grass there then (probably a bit late in the year now for that) but will try to have it ready for next season. Yea, I’m leaning towards the 4.0 too. The dealer that called out uses one with the fixed 4 sided blade (like the one on the l250i) and not the 6 smaller separate ones so that should be better fit my grass. Also would I need to have an oudoor socket installed or can I connect to the power inside the garage (charging base would be located just outside the garage). Also would I need extra rubber mats or artificial grass near charging base as I’ve heard the 4.0 turns and reverses in to charging base and therefore leaves lots of marks/tracks near there. Thank you again for all the helpful information, Keith.

        1. For the base, you could put the transformer and plug in the garage and just feed the low voltage wire to the base. There is about 8m of wire from the transformer to the base. If you want to put the low voltage wire through a hole in the garage then you will need to drill a 24mm hole to get the plug through.
          Regarding the tyre marks, it does turn and I have seen it churn up the grass but I have run it at home with no problems…would try it and see.

        2. Hi Keith
          Did you buy the 4.0 elite in the end?
          If so how is it working out for you
          Regards
          Damien
          Co. Meath

          1. This is third third season we have been running a 4.0 and it has been going very well.
            Paul

  2. Hi, thank you for the blog. I was going to buy husqvarna, but now leaning more towards ambrogio. We have a 1000m yard and most of it is right before our main rest area, so having silent robot is a must, considering mowing duration. And according to videos I’ve found ambrogio is much louder. Could you please comment on this? Looks like ambrogio drives louder and cuts louder then husqvarna. Looking forward for your response. Thank you

    1. HI George, the difference between the Husqvarna 315X and the Ambrogio Twenty S+ is minor with the Ambrogio being the quieter one (58 vs 61dB(A)). As noises drop by 6dB every time you double the distance, the differences are minor, they are both classed as less than normal conversation – 65 dB(a). I would concentrate on other factors which may influence your decision such as the mowing time. Husqvarna usually quotes the max. area for a mower based on it being scheduled to mow 24hrs a day, 7 days a week…Ambrogios are normally around the 14 – 18h mark.

  3. Hi, my compliments and thanks for your excellent and informative reviews. I live in the Netherlands, and have been using a Husqvarna 315X for 3 seasons now.
    I have had some serious problems with it, which at the end turned out to be mostly related to the battery. Despite dismantling the mover loading station and storing the mower in the garage for winter, and leave it powered on in the station all winter, I have had the battery dead after winter twice now. After the winter I did not expect this and struggled with the mower for two months, with quite short mowing times and the mower behaving erratically. Unfortunately Husqvarna support in the Netherlands had no clue.
    Furthermore, my lawn (500m2) is surrounded by large oak trees, losing much branch parts all year and “tons” of acorns. The small blades suffer a lot from this, and until the premium blades with the slit (rather than the whole) became available the cutting blades would get stuck often, sometimes several times a day.
    So I have been looking at an Ambrogio mower, the stiff 4 star shaped cutting blades of the 250i would serve me better I guess.
    Obviously I would if possible want to re-use the perimeter wire laid out for the 315x, however, rather than the Husqvarna moving the edge by perpendicularly running over the perimeter wire into the flower beds the Ambrigio would follow the perimeter wire in parallel.
    Here is my question: can I re-use the existing perimeter wire and is the line the Ambrogio follows adjustable so the blade mowes right to the edge, without the wheels running far over the edge in the mud of the flower beds? The existing wire would be some 10-15 cm away from edge of the lawn.
    I also have a narrow passage from one part to the other (less than 1 meter wide, about 2 meters long). The Husqvarna has a central guiding wire to find its way. I read that for the Ambrogio I would need a special loop or such to guide it and back to the station. How does that work?
    Thanks for your advise.

    1. Hi Peter, you can reuse the perimeter wire but the Ambrogio does not use a guide wire. Husqvarna state that the perimeter wire should be 30-35cms from the edge which is the same as an Ambrogio, if your ire is 10-15cms away then that will not work either with the Husqvarna or the Ambrogio. Whichever mower you go for, you will always end up with grass at the edge which needs to be strimmed.
      The Ambrogios need a passageway of approx 1m (30cms between the wires and 35cm from the wires to the edge)…if you can make the mower run straight when it enters the passageway then you can reduce the distance from the wire to the edge to 30cms i.e. a 90cm passageway.
      You can set the Ambrogios to drive along the wire in which case no ‘loop’ is required to get it through the passageway. If you want to make it run parallel to the wire (up to 1m away) then you use the ‘loop’ to make the mower move back to the wire so it will go through the passageway…if you look at the manuals, this is referred to v-metering.

  4. Hi Keith, Thanks for the videos and comparisons, they are very helpful. I am convinced to buy a Ambrogio Twenty Elite. I also have a mate who highly recommends especially the suspension aspect. I have a quick question if you get a chance to answer. I am concerned with the blade aspect. I have two dogs (and three cats) but one of the dogs is a pup and she is constantly deconstructing things around the house (espeicially fond of tearing beds apart) My question is how does the fixed blade react to robe or dog chew leftovers (maybe a robot mower not suitable at all in my case)
    Thanks a million
    John

    1. Hi John, the fixed blade will try and slice anything left on the lawn that the bumper of the mower does not bump into (and hence turn the mower around). The blades are quite resilient so will normally withstand that type of thing…and your dog won’t be a pup for long 🙂
      Paul

  5. Hi there. Will the 430x cut of the edge if the kerb is 4 inches wide.
    Or what width does the kerb need to be to get all the edge mowed.
    Thanks Mike.

    1. The cutting width of the 430x is 24 cms, whilst the mower width is 56cms (according to the manual)…so in theory if you laid the wire 8cms from the edge the kerb (as the blade would cut 12 cms max from the wire) would need a kerb of 20cms i.e. (half the mower width 28cms – 8 cms from middle of blade/ wire to edge of kerb)…in practice the wheels are slightly inset so it would be slightly less.

  6. HI
    It seems the Ambrogio doesn’t go right to the edge so I would have to use the strimmer for all the edges- is this right? But with the other Worx models it seems to do them.
    Is this right or have I got it confused?
    Many thanks

    1. You will find that all robot mowers will leave an edge to be strimmed, the Worx does a cut closer to the edge but there will still be areas that need to be strimmed.

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